Pastor Steve Jeffery talks with economist, portfolio manager, and theologian Jerry Bowyer. They discuss Jerry’s recent book The Maker and the Takers; CrossPolitic and the Christian social media world; asset management; modern portfolio theory; risk, volatility, and the realities of the created order; the ESG movement; the left’s ideological takeover of the modern boardroom; agency risk in the teaching of Jesus; shareholder and stakeholder capitalism; Christians in the modern woke workplace; Biblical generosity; Jeff Bezos and the ultra-wealthy CEO class; and other topics.