Pastor Jeffery talks with Pastor Drew Maney about some important elements of cultural reformation in the church, home, and world. Sparked by their shared appreciation of Ken Myers, they discuss long, short, and medium-term trends; All God’s Children and Blue Suede Shoes; role models; work; “the medium is the message”; form, content, and Leithartian exegesis; meals, different conceptions of freedom; DC Schindler; political theology; James B. Jordan; Gregory Dix; the “use” of God’s creation; Jesus as the true man; gratitude and freedom; the place of meditation; music; cultivating aesthetic appreciation; choosing church music; family singing; chanting the Psalms; singing and masculine leadership; and other topics.

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